Blogging the experience of gameplayhttps://www.gamelog.cl/gamers/GamerPage.php?idgamer=1278https://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4307Today i thank gad because this is the last time i should play this game. Because of this reason i try to play as much as i can to know in where this game will end? In the last two times i just stop after killing students and the police blockade the school. This time i continue play aftere this moment, after the massacre complete, the designer show some real pictures, such as Harris and Klebold corpses and some survivors from this tragedy and their families. When i see these picture, i really agree with my first entry that this game is not just game, this is more than game, it is pictured a horroic massacre. Therefor, i still agree that this game is really has bad emotional effect on the victim’s and murder’s families, because it represents a real story with real pictures of them and weapons. After the massacre end, i think the game will finish. However, i found my self (Eric) live again in a different place. By the time i try to find out where i’m?. When i see the flare, i relate that is the hell, because we almost know that these two murders should be in the hell to pay the price of their massacre. However, when i play in the hell, i found that Harris and Klebold like there!!. They met many and kill a lot. After the hell level finish, there was a ceremony that happened in the high school. the speakers who talked in this cermony discuss a lot of real problems, such as easy accses to gun that demande law control, and the reason of exist such a violence that because of the effected of media on children, so we should ask for guidelines on creators a violance media.when i see the cermony and read what the speakers said, i really feel like i’m watching a movie or something really happened. However, I like what the designer show in the cermony. It may relive what he did in this game. Finally, this game do a faver for me just by letting me know in a disgusting way this real massacre that i have ever known about it. morever, i feel in some way that this game not only represent the real tragedy, but it takes me inside it, this way of interaction between me and this game let me think that sometimes vedeogame inforce you to interact with the reality than any other kind of media. You play as the real murder, feel the same situation and think by the same way that the murder think. This situation is worried me. Therefor, i think that these kinds of game have their strength among the other media. Therefor, we have to beware about which game is unacceptable for our children and what aren’t? Morever, we should ask for the authenticity in the role of media in this game and any other violence game?. “All stories communicate values and portray styles, so every movie and TV program, how ever inane, may make some mark on minds, even prompting behavior, especially when the images are cumulative”. More than a movie, ethics and entertainment, Valenti. I write this because i really feel in that way when i watch this game or (movie as I think). As i said this is not just a game, it looks like movie represnt a real masscre. As Valenti said, every thing we watch in the media even if it was inane, it will affect our children by leaving some idea on their mind. This game effect our children by violence and plante grudge insaide teenagers. For example, i rememeber when Eric remember that three of students hit him. when Eric remeber this, he said” they made fun of my face, my hair, my shirts”. then Klebold told him” yes, and now it’s time for them to die”. I was surprised for the words and the situation that may happend to any kid who play this game, but this game represent it in a realy grudge way. Therefor, it will left some mark of grudge in teenagers. i really agree with all of you who mention that this game is really unethical and have negative response.in my moral opinion we don’t need for our children these kind of games which planet the idea of violence , grudge and that you can solve your problem by being a murder. We don’t need game that pays violence for its success. What we need is games that challenge the stereotype of the other games; games learn our children something interesting and meaningful rather than violence. Therefor, our role aginst these violent games, is to criticize them and don’t let our moral sence go with the wind.Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:14:37 CDThttps://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4307&iddiary=8027https://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4307In the second time of playing Super Columbine Massacre, i felt boring and disgusting after spend my time in playing this game. I felt boring because this game like the other RPG games, they are endless in way that you always need to repeate an action. You always prepare to encounter enemies whom are the high school students by selecting weapons and enter a war by driving to the school and kill students by planting bombs in the cafteria then kill the students as many as you can. Moreever, i felt disgusting because it doesn’t like any other killing game which represents your enemies in a fake charecters that don’t realte to the reality in any way, in this game you kill people who are killed in the real life. Even though the game doesn’t represent the real victim's face, you can’t play without thinking since this game based on the real-world masscara. Morever, we always expect to take pleaser and have fun from games by enjoying triumph. However this game not only dosen’t provide any of these expected adavanteges, but also it has tragedy rather than triumph. Therfore, there is no joy in playing this game, so i’m wondering why Ledonne decide to make this kind of game? I want to share with you what i found in the internet while i was serching for reasons .Ledonne says.”“I was looking at these two boys who I saw perhaps too much of myself in,” Ledonne says in the documentary. “To be honest with you, I was headed down something of a similar path.”” therefore, Ledonne doesn’t want us to forgive Harris and Klebold by making this game, but he wants to let the other know and understand their situation that motive them to this masscara, as he is also has the same situation. However, he lets the teenagers pay the price by raising grudge on who have the same setiuation of Harris and Klebold. Especially, while they play the game, they will notice that they will not kill kids who aren’t unlike them and who bullied by other students like them. Because this feeling of biulled is not unreal, this usually happen with many high school students, few of them don’t care while in the other this kind of feeling leading them to suicide. Therfore, it is not a fake situation that we can produce it in a game for teenagers. in my view the main and dangourest point of this game is, this game modling players in Harris and Klebold whom are murders, and expose players to their world prespective, such as thoughts, feeling of loneliness and alienation from their high school students, and their books and music which revive them to hold a grudge against the other students. Acordinglly, this kind of feeling lead them to kill 13 students. finally, after i reaserch to know what reasons make Ledonne designe this game, i really didn’t find a strong argument from Ledonne, which justify his right of making this game that has a horroic effect on emotin and behavirels of teenagers and victim’s family. (This entry has been edited1 time. It was last edited on Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:31:12.)Sun, 08 Aug 2010 22:13:25 CDThttps://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4307&iddiary=8018https://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4307This is my first day in playing Super Columbine Massacre RPG. Before I play the game, I read about it to know what is about. I found that this game based on a real massacre, so I just remember our discussion in the class about the movies that represent 11 Sep. I remember that we said it is cause painfully feeling to whom had a bad memories about this day. Thus, I feel that this game may have the same reflection on the victims and murders family. As I found in a Wikipedia” Upon revealing Columbin's identity as Ledonne, Kovacs said, "One of the girls who died [in the shootings] was a friend of mine, Rachel. We were in the same church group. Anyone playing this game can kill Rachel over and over again."[13] The father of one victim remarked to the press that the game "disgusts me.”. I try to imagine if I were them, I wouldn’t feel ok if I see the massacre which my sun cause or where one of my sun die .Therefore, I found what is really concerned, this game has its effect on people. Does Ledonne have the right to design this game which based on the real massacre? Even though it is a game, it has its effect like any other media. Game designer should notice the role of media. Moreover, they should be aware about this role when they pictured real in game. When i was playing this game, i didn’t find any target or fun. It just represents real murders that planned to kill all the students in their school, because they didn’t notice them. Even if this a real story, in my view it is not excited to produce it. Most of games we found the target of them is having fun, but games like this game which have a real mixed with violence aren’t produced any kind of fun. What is the fun of killing people and regards the humanity? (This entry has been edited1 time. It was last edited on Sat, 07 Aug 2010 23:58:52.)Sat, 07 Aug 2010 23:56:58 CDThttps://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4307&iddiary=8012https://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4283Today is the third day of playing GTA: SA. I don’t want to be perfect by saying that I didn’t have fun by breaking the rules. In this time I really feel that it’s normal to do such of violent things in the game. I start the game and as always I steal cars and kill people as much as I can to have their money and weapons. Moreover, in this time I try to explore what the other violent things the players can do. I found a lot of violent things in the SA society. I still agree with my opinion of this game that I said in the beginning. It is a very unethical game. However, I disagree with this comment that “stealing vehicles is out of necessity is not unethical”. Although the stealing in SA society is ethical, we shouldn’t be agree that is ethical. We can agree just by cultural relativism that in our society it is wrong to steal, whereas in SA society it is right to steal. Therefore, stealing is neither objectively right nor wrong. According to the cultural relativism the rightness and wrongness of stealing depends on the cultural and different cultural have different moral codes. However, we shouldn’t forget that there are many cases against cultural relativism. One of these cases is that cultural relativism doesn’t provide a framework for reconciliation between cultures in conflict. Therefore, if we agree that stealing is ethical, this agreement may lead to actions that harm another. Thus, if we agree that stealing is ethical, we may have bad effects in our society. Furthermore, stealing in the game is out of necessity in sometimes but it is not in all the times. I agree that in the game we need to steal to buy our requirements. Whereas, most of the time we steal to satisfy our unnecessary requirements. For example, even if you have money you kill people for having more money, weapons, looking good and having the latest gear. Finally, the last thing I would say about this game is according to the utilitarianism we should produce a happiness of prevent unhappiness for an individual or a community. I think the company that produces this game thinks of happiness in the money that they will earned and the happiness that they give to the players. Most of our opinion was that this game makes us happy by doing the violent things that this game has it. However, when we said happiness we mean happiness such as, advantage, benefit and good. Therefore, the happiness that we had when we play this game is not happiness it is unhappiness because it comes from doing wrong things. It is disadvantages so this is unhappiness. Therefore, if the company that produces this game thinks that they produce happiness to players, they should know that is wrong. Since they produce much of disadvantages by let players in this game think of what they want regardless of the happiness and unhappiness that account of their acts. The players just think of how they can get a lot of money and weapons without thinking of what the effects of their violence. Furthermore, they put in this game some issues like racism and escaping from the law and insults. And also as I said before that this game has a bad effect in teenagers and gives a bad picture of us society. Certainly, if we want to see how much advantages and disadvantages of this game, we will find that there is some happiness of it but the unhappiness is much more. As a result, by the utilitarianism this game shouldn’t be produce because of the unhappiness volume of it.Mon, 26 Jul 2010 03:26:25 CDThttps://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4283&iddiary=7985https://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4283This is the second time of playing GTA: SA too. And also in this time my control is much easier. I think I can answer your question. My ethical answer for your first question that “is this acceptable because it's a video game, or is this what's actually happening in real life?” this game shouldn’t be acceptable whether this game has been accepted or not,. Despite of having this game a lot of realistic issues such as, killing, steeling and punching and maybe these issues are the same as in real or much harm, this game has a bad effects on people especially on the teenagers. For example, I see many of our class students having fun when they play this game and also I have the same feeling. This feeling comes from the happiness that we can break the rules and we can do whatever we want. Therefore, the teenagers who play this game will try to feel this kind of feeling in the real life. Moreover, as we talked in the second class about the example of if it is ethical for American director to make a realistic unflattering film about a war is currently being fought by American soldiers. Most of us refuse this kind of act. Like we said that this movie is disrespectful of American soldier, this game also is disrespectful of American society because it gives a bad picture of this society. I want to tell you what my brother said to me when I decided to study abroad in us. He said:” are you going to this country that has a lot of crimes and weapons” so “you have to be careful and don’t talk to black guys”. I really was shocked and when I asked him why you said that? He told me that he saw this in this game. When he played this game and saw that there are a lot of things look like a real life and the other things is fiction he couldn’t separate between what is real and what is not maybe because he has never been in us. .there is another thing happen to me. When I was playing this game in the DePaul lab the girl who was working in this lab told me something very funny. She told me that one of her friends went to Japan and a Japanese boy when he knew that he is from us. Asked him if he has ever owned weapon or has he ever shoot or killing someone. Therefore, this game has a misleading of how the real American society is. Maybe because this game has something from the real American life mixed with some fiction, this game look like kind of a real life. I know that there are some things are fiction like the easiness of escaping from police and the much of breaking rules, but there are a lot of things look like a real life such as, people talks and some realistic issues like racism and crimes. However, if any other teenager or anyone who have never been in us plays this game, he will has this wrong picture of American society. Accordingly, it is unethical to accept this game.Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:28:26 CDThttps://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4283&iddiary=7975https://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4283This is the first day of playing “grand theft auto: San Andreas”. Usually when I begin to play a game, I start by exploring the purpose of each sign in the game. First of all, in the top there is the sign of what kind of weapon you have. This weapon you will use it to do any crime that you want. However, if you don’t have any weapon, there is a sign of boxing. That means if you don’t have any weapon, you can get whatever you want by hitting people. This way of thinking let me feel that I’m a very hero man. I can get whatever I want by my hand. Therefore, if I need money I just need to look forward for anyone. In the moral perspective there are no desires you should do what you ought to do not what you want to, then by moral you shouldn’t kill people even if you need money. However, in this game you always need money to pay a home or shopping or anything. Therefore, you need to kill to have money. Moreover, the other moral respect I see in this game that it’s wrong to kill one person to save another. Accordingly, it’s wrong to kill people just to save your life by having their weapons and money. The second sign is red strip for your health rate. The third one is bunch of stars of the crime that you did. The more numbers of stars that you have means the more possibility of catching by a police man. My comment here is that you can escape from a police man if you just make one crime. I killed a police man then I have one star, so when the police man tries to catch me I can escape. This easiness of escape makes me feel that it doesn’t matter of killing people even if he was a police man because you can run away. Nevertheless, when you have maybe 6 stars, you will bust. And the last sign is for money that you earn it by killing people and rob their money. Not only I’m excited to play this game again to explore other things, but also I will let you know about my other experience.Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:06:45 CDThttps://www.gamelog.cl/logs/LogPage.php?Log_Id=4283&iddiary=7966